He took a law degree at the university of Bologna, and was twenty-five when his uncle became a compromise pope. They seemed to have used fewer costumes and jewelry, and you see the same gowns repeatedly, which is also more honest. – whether one believes it’s Lucrezia or not it’s impossible to ignore this portrait – especially because, you know, there is no single portrait of Lucrezia Borgia that is contemporary or reliable; Both shows have wonderful opening titles. But let’s not fool ourselves here: Showtime’s The Borgias is far, far, far, far superior in every aspect imaginable, and the two emmy awards it won are proof of that. Canal+ seems to have focused on appearance first. As for the accents, the producers of Canal+’s series pointed out that at that time Rome was a melting pot. I never knew or more importantly never questioned. The face, with its upward turned eyes, is derived from the famous painting by Guido Reni done more than a century later. Look, they are defending Rome.’ And on and on for 10 minutes, a couple men standing there talking about how we’re defending the city, instead of, oh I don’t know, defending the damn city. It had an important influence on High Renaissane art including Michelangelo’s later ceiling.. Also, John Doman’s pronunciation made me cringe. Showtime’s The Borgias vs. Borgia: Faith and Fear. Otherwise, they would serve “Once Upon a Time” series fairly well. Why would you change the person’s hair color when it’s known? https://i.pinimg.com/564x/81/43/19/81431936000e8e6809d646f4e8c61a82.jpg Pale colors were used in the Renaissance by the upper classes — it’s a myth that that only meant bad dye job. Also, the women’s hair in the Showtime series is fantastically done in historical fashions, while not so much in the other show. Equal time to balance all the bare women’s breasts. The Borgias vs The Godfather Thread starter WarpObscura; Start date May 17, 2012; WarpObscura Sleepy Big Stick. S3, Ep1. For example, the real Alexander was a large man, both in height and weight, but Irons is a thin man, and bares no resemblance to the pope. That was exactly my point: dresses are not that important for me. For someone who claims to love the “history” of this show, why do you insist on glossing over the wildly inaccurate costuming? But to spend 29 hours drooling over the dresses? report. Wrap him up in leather or strip off his shirt, whatever it takes to draw in a coveted female demographic. There are plenty of period portraits of wealthy women wearing elegant pink gowns & men as well — a summary here from our friend Kimiko http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/CostumeMythsWS/myth23.html, For specific Italian Ren portraits, try any of these: 1. The Borgias was far from perfect, and I’m not the kind of person to put a show above or before the other. One review of German actress Isolda Dychauk’s performance as Lucrezia said it was like watching a teenage girl read aloud a poem she’d memorized. 3 — History, I’m quite the fan. Anche se è una storia importante e … While the costumes and sets for the Showtime production were beautiful, Canal+’s were a bit more honest. The Borgias was phenomenal. ( Log Out /  https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f8/08/52/f80852c84ec58fc67b7d8d08fe703b13.jpg Basically, you can sum up most any Borgia: Faith and Fear episode like this: I’m not opposed to any of these things other than the exposition. The no-name actors and ugly costumes in “Borgia: Faith and Fear” are probably because of its smaller budget. http://lnk.splashurl.com/3Ebo Let’s put it this way: Showtime’s The Borgias is a brand-new Ferrari, speeding along the highway, while Borgia: Faith and Fear is a dinky little Fiat, puttering down the back streets. Maybe you’ll be shown naked, fat, old men getting humiliated or having sex (with young girls, natch) or taking a dump. I read that its basically an Americanized simplified story. The women’s gowns mostly have low-square necklines, round waistlines, and giant puffy sleeves reminiscent of Bronzino portraits from the 1540s. The European series Borgia (AKA Borgia: Faith and Fear) is far, far better than the Showtime series The Borgias. [For details of the conclave see Pastor, "Hist. Randomly, in the third season, the women’s gowns start to look like Regency / 1810s styles with an overall narrower silhouette, a higher waist, and fitted sleeves — but in the same dark velvets and brocades to indicate “Italian Renaissance.” I don’t understand the change there. In other words, the violence is toned down, the plot lines and points are simplified, and modern sensibilities have changed the story. It’s one of her most known traits! Showtime has him running all over Europe, constantly looking for ways to kill the pope, who he resents for getting the papal throne which he believed he was due. Just as Showtime gave us a show that was practically rose-colored, Canal+ gave us a show that was gritty and dark. Always passionate about costume, from everyday office wear to outrageous twisted historical creations, she has maintained some of the earliest online costuming-focused resources on the web. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. They could have put the extras and bit players in head to toe black- which hides cheap fabrics and a lack of costly detail work and also visually makes the point that the Borgia family stood out as colorful, powerful, and wealthy even by the standards of the elite of their day. 1. I feel Grace led me here. When it comes to the costuming for either of these series, it’s all about Lucrezia. You can also check out this YouTube channel of Borgia Scenes from Faith and Fear. Both show Lucrezia having an affair with a boy, who impregnates her and is killed, in Showtime’s by Juan and in Canal+ by Cesare. – the headband in “Faith and Fear” AND on the picture by Veneto is ferroniere, and it was pretty common for ladies’ fashion in the late fifteenth century.